Sen. Joe Manchin (D-W.Va.) said he really thinks Hunter Biden, the son of former Vice President Joe Biden, is the reason why the senators are gathering for an impeachment trial against President Donald Trump.

In an interview with MSNBC on Wednesday morning, Jan. 29, when asked if Hunter Biden is a relevant witness, Manchin replied, “I think so, I really do. I don’t have a problem there because this is why we are where we are.”

“Now, I think he could clear himself. Of what I know and what I’ve heard, but being afraid to put anyone that might have pertinent information is wrong—no matter if you’re a Democrat or a Republican, and not go home and say well, I protected one. No. If it’s relevant, then it should be there,” the senator of West Virginia said.

Manchin gave his remarks as Democratic and Republican senators are discussing whether to call witnesses.

The Republicans want Hunter Biden to testify because the House Democrats started the impeachment inquiry into President Trump on allegations that the president had pressured Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelenskiy to investigate the Bidens in exchange for U.S. military aid. The House rejected a Republican bid to issue subpoena for Hunter in its proceedings.

In the Senate trial, some Republicans continued to claim that Joe Biden abused his role as vice president to push for the ouster of a Ukrainian prosecutor who was accused of corruption and had investigated Burisma Holdings, a corrupt energy company that counted Hunter among its board members, according to The Hill.

While some Republican allies of President Trump in the Senate have called for both Bidens to testify should witnesses be approved later this week, Democrats have largely said subpoenaing the two would steer the trial away from its intended focus.

Manchin is one of three moderate Democrats undecided on whether to vote to remove President Trump from office, besides Sen. Kyrsten Sinema of Arizona and Sen. Doug Jones of Alabama, Politico reported.

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